unitednations
03-08 06:41 PM
In defense of the EB2I argument thought UN, I could argue that the Horizontal spillover was right all along and it was EB3ROW that benefited since 2005 at the expense of EB2I.
As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.
I feel where you are coming from; I am also from the waited four years to get approved from filing 485 club.
btw; every person I know of from India who has gotten green from October 2008 were those eb3 guys who converted to eb2 through perm labor. I have a feeling that this is going to cause a lot of stress to eb2 as many people have been able to obtain old priority dates through eb3. Maybe not much solace but with perm labors taking 9 months to get approved now (most recent approvals were filed in July 2008) it does help India a bit. It is taking longer for eb2 ROW to get into 140/485 que and would cause more visas to be spilled over. If labors were getting approved fast then there would be less spillover in this fiscal year.
Department of State is really playing with people with their continuing change of how they are interpreting the law with regards to visa spillover. In Mid 90's I left USA (one of the reasons; not main reason was because I was told it would take about three years to get greencard; looks like a small wait compared to now).
As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.
I feel where you are coming from; I am also from the waited four years to get approved from filing 485 club.
btw; every person I know of from India who has gotten green from October 2008 were those eb3 guys who converted to eb2 through perm labor. I have a feeling that this is going to cause a lot of stress to eb2 as many people have been able to obtain old priority dates through eb3. Maybe not much solace but with perm labors taking 9 months to get approved now (most recent approvals were filed in July 2008) it does help India a bit. It is taking longer for eb2 ROW to get into 140/485 que and would cause more visas to be spilled over. If labors were getting approved fast then there would be less spillover in this fiscal year.
Department of State is really playing with people with their continuing change of how they are interpreting the law with regards to visa spillover. In Mid 90's I left USA (one of the reasons; not main reason was because I was told it would take about three years to get greencard; looks like a small wait compared to now).
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akhilmahajan
02-25 02:23 PM
As we have so many ideas floating around.
Let me stress on the fact that what ever we decide to do, we need funds for that.
Although this funding drive was a bust, but i would like to try it one more time. I request fellow IV'ans to come forward and help in contributing.
GO I/WE GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
Let me stress on the fact that what ever we decide to do, we need funds for that.
Although this funding drive was a bust, but i would like to try it one more time. I request fellow IV'ans to come forward and help in contributing.
GO I/WE GO. TOGETHER WE CAN.
johnwright03
01-30 03:33 PM
Thanks sledge for your support.. That's exactly what I meant. One should at least have a job before applying for H1. I am in totally favor of H4 visa holders to be able to work. There are so many highly educated and talented people out there who are stuck at home or school because of H4 work permit law.
I wish good luck to all H4 visa holders and other people who are stuck in this immigration system.
One should at least have a job before applying for H1.
Can you show me a single employer (not the Desi Consultants), would be willing to interview or atleast talk to you if you don't have an H1 or valid visa to work...????
I wish good luck to all H4 visa holders and other people who are stuck in this immigration system.
One should at least have a job before applying for H1.
Can you show me a single employer (not the Desi Consultants), would be willing to interview or atleast talk to you if you don't have an H1 or valid visa to work...????
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08-26 04:50 PM
I will also suggest guys waiting with their PD current to write to the USCIS Director in DC. I did that; not sure if that worked in my case, but one needs to explore every way of bringing their case to the attention of the management.
Do you have contact info?
Do you have contact info?
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redcard
08-20 01:43 PM
Thanx to Libra, skidude, vkrishn, gkattalu, bindoke, andycool ....
I feel much better. These are trying times for sure.
Loads of work at the office, moving from one city to another and above all...this frustrating wait --- Its 2 much 2 handle. But I'm with u guyz...I think I shud just STFU N wait.
For all those waiting for approval, its does help to find out if a visa number has been requested for your application. My understanding is that all the applications which are ready for adjudication are moved to a separate area and visa number is requested for those.Infact if you can find out (I think the guys at Infopass only have access to that information. Not sure if the level 2 service does) it helps. If a visa number has been assigned or requested for your application it will get approved.
I am not sure if assigned to an officer or with an officer status has any material value when it comes to approval unless a visa number has been requested.
I feel much better. These are trying times for sure.
Loads of work at the office, moving from one city to another and above all...this frustrating wait --- Its 2 much 2 handle. But I'm with u guyz...I think I shud just STFU N wait.
For all those waiting for approval, its does help to find out if a visa number has been requested for your application. My understanding is that all the applications which are ready for adjudication are moved to a separate area and visa number is requested for those.Infact if you can find out (I think the guys at Infopass only have access to that information. Not sure if the level 2 service does) it helps. If a visa number has been assigned or requested for your application it will get approved.
I am not sure if assigned to an officer or with an officer status has any material value when it comes to approval unless a visa number has been requested.
h1techSlave
03-28 11:44 AM
That's a nice one. I had a laugh after a long time.
:D yes. I want to predict what I will do (or what i want to do) to USCIS, but i will be banned.;)
:D yes. I want to predict what I will do (or what i want to do) to USCIS, but i will be banned.;)
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caydee
05-23 05:48 PM
Sent emails to CA Senators and to the 10-Senators listed on the first sheet of this thread.
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TheOmbudsman
10-25 04:19 PM
Hi Ahimsa and other poster who questioned this:
Why SKULL bill ? As a high level manager I have learned after years of experience that you need to use good sense of humor, satirize when confronted with insanities and very stressful situations. In my life such a twaddle this immigration process has been that I need to come up to this forum and sometimes make some of us laugh a little bit from this situation. Calling it SKULL bill is a way to apply my sense of humor to this process. Please do not take this as an offense.
Please, please. Folks, didn't you see immigration-law.com and AILA.org - a reliable pro immigration sources - outlining that that anti CIR calls outnumbered the pro CIR calls 400:1 ? Go to AILA.org and research the info there by yourself if you don't trust me.
One more indication for you, which doesn't rely on biased polls:
In spite of massive lobby and muscles leveraged by the corporate sector, why do you think immigration bills - both pro legal and pro illegal - have been unsuccessful in the last two years ? Come on guys, by now you should not be questioning whether the public is against amnesty or even legal immigration. It is evident that the majority of citizens do not benefit from more immigration. Do you have an idea how much lobbying $ got involved on this without much success so far ? I am surprised that you are even raising this question. Why Americans should want more foreigners to compete with them when the real wages have declined ? That would defy logic.
Here, a fresh related evidence. Those who have an open mind should be able to understand this:
http://diversity.monster.com/articles/coming_to_america/?WT.mc_n=MNL000283
Does the Workplace Welcome Differ?
Are Americans more welcoming to Asian immigrants than to Hispanics/Latinos? C.N. Le, who directs the Asian American Studies Program at the University of Massachusetts, calls it "a complicated issue." She thinks that "Americans in general are becoming slightly less welcoming to immigrants in general. Part of it has to do with illegal immigration, but it spills over and affects legal immigrants too. There is always workplace tension between those who gets jobs, and those who get left out."
Talk about this article and get advice on the Diversity at Work message board.
Here is a fresh poll for you, since you asked:
source:numbersusa.com (the poll was not conducted by numbersusa.com though).
QUESTION A: If immigration continues at its current level for the next 50 years, experts estimate that it will add approximately 100 million people to the United States population, which currently is 300 million. Knowing this, would you say the country needs to:
% SAYING
NOTE: Typically, poll results for categories are released to the public in rounded numbers that will tend not to add up precisely to 100%.
REDUCE number of immigrants INCREASE number of immigrants Keep number the same Not sure
ALL VOTERS 64 3 26 6
Male 64 3 26 6
Female 65 2 26 6
PARTY
Democrat 59 2 32 6
Independent 59 4 31 4
Republican
1. Why do you keep mentioning SKIL bill clearly as SKULL bill in all your posts?
2. Did people clearly indicate they did not want reliefs for EB immigrants - did they accept Lou Dobbs' lies on H-1B such as "H-1Bs do not pay taxes, are cheap labor, are stealing american jobs"?
Why SKULL bill ? As a high level manager I have learned after years of experience that you need to use good sense of humor, satirize when confronted with insanities and very stressful situations. In my life such a twaddle this immigration process has been that I need to come up to this forum and sometimes make some of us laugh a little bit from this situation. Calling it SKULL bill is a way to apply my sense of humor to this process. Please do not take this as an offense.
Please, please. Folks, didn't you see immigration-law.com and AILA.org - a reliable pro immigration sources - outlining that that anti CIR calls outnumbered the pro CIR calls 400:1 ? Go to AILA.org and research the info there by yourself if you don't trust me.
One more indication for you, which doesn't rely on biased polls:
In spite of massive lobby and muscles leveraged by the corporate sector, why do you think immigration bills - both pro legal and pro illegal - have been unsuccessful in the last two years ? Come on guys, by now you should not be questioning whether the public is against amnesty or even legal immigration. It is evident that the majority of citizens do not benefit from more immigration. Do you have an idea how much lobbying $ got involved on this without much success so far ? I am surprised that you are even raising this question. Why Americans should want more foreigners to compete with them when the real wages have declined ? That would defy logic.
Here, a fresh related evidence. Those who have an open mind should be able to understand this:
http://diversity.monster.com/articles/coming_to_america/?WT.mc_n=MNL000283
Does the Workplace Welcome Differ?
Are Americans more welcoming to Asian immigrants than to Hispanics/Latinos? C.N. Le, who directs the Asian American Studies Program at the University of Massachusetts, calls it "a complicated issue." She thinks that "Americans in general are becoming slightly less welcoming to immigrants in general. Part of it has to do with illegal immigration, but it spills over and affects legal immigrants too. There is always workplace tension between those who gets jobs, and those who get left out."
Talk about this article and get advice on the Diversity at Work message board.
Here is a fresh poll for you, since you asked:
source:numbersusa.com (the poll was not conducted by numbersusa.com though).
QUESTION A: If immigration continues at its current level for the next 50 years, experts estimate that it will add approximately 100 million people to the United States population, which currently is 300 million. Knowing this, would you say the country needs to:
% SAYING
NOTE: Typically, poll results for categories are released to the public in rounded numbers that will tend not to add up precisely to 100%.
REDUCE number of immigrants INCREASE number of immigrants Keep number the same Not sure
ALL VOTERS 64 3 26 6
Male 64 3 26 6
Female 65 2 26 6
PARTY
Democrat 59 2 32 6
Independent 59 4 31 4
Republican
1. Why do you keep mentioning SKIL bill clearly as SKULL bill in all your posts?
2. Did people clearly indicate they did not want reliefs for EB immigrants - did they accept Lou Dobbs' lies on H-1B such as "H-1Bs do not pay taxes, are cheap labor, are stealing american jobs"?
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12-26 10:46 AM
I didnt have to open an SR to get the FP.
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05-23 12:36 PM
sent emails to 10 senators
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11-17 10:43 PM
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like_watching_paint_dry
12-10 11:51 AM
Why don't you move back to Britain or whichever country you or your ancestors came from? Also, a lot of wealth in the US has been created by these people who "slam into someone else's country." So your argument has little validity. Maybe I should not be wasting my time in responding to xenophobes.
Dont waste your breath on these benefit scrounging, trailer trash dwelling, racist redneck xenophobes. He's just concerned he wont be able to buy viagra with your social security and medicare taxes if you stay and happen to depend on them some day.
Dont waste your breath on these benefit scrounging, trailer trash dwelling, racist redneck xenophobes. He's just concerned he wont be able to buy viagra with your social security and medicare taxes if you stay and happen to depend on them some day.
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desi3933
07-10 09:08 AM
Section 245
8 CFR PART 245 -- ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=cf90b70814c3464912a08093ce96e 83c
8 CFR PART 245 -- ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/ProPubVAP.jsp?dockey=cf90b70814c3464912a08093ce96e 83c
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12-17 12:57 PM
1. Good health (which we often take for granted)
YEs
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
Not married no kids
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
No us education
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
No savings no big salary
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
Yeah just started career
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
Dont know about that
Been herr from 7 years..
Dear,
What are you doing for 7 years in US if you have not studied here and just started career ? or I have mis-understood what you said above?
But to me if you are not saving some money while in US, its not worth it staying here, away from family/friends.
Good Luck
YEs
2. US born kids (at least they are citizens, if that's important to you)
Not married no kids
3. US education (a different experience for sure)
No us education
4. Good savings (all said and done, your bank balance is very important no matter where you stay in the world)
No savings no big salary
5. Good work experience (this is transferable and more or less ensures a decent future)
Yeah just started career
6. Loving/caring family/friends (who will always love you the same and couldn't care less about GC or citizenship)
Dont know about that
Been herr from 7 years..
Dear,
What are you doing for 7 years in US if you have not studied here and just started career ? or I have mis-understood what you said above?
But to me if you are not saving some money while in US, its not worth it staying here, away from family/friends.
Good Luck
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anzerraja
07-20 02:48 PM
If you are asking just about this thread, yes there is a spreadsheet tracking this.
If in general, i am sorry i am not aware of anything.
Is there any way of knowing how much each user has contributed? (I am not interested in knowing about others ) but would be nice to know atleast for myself how much I contributed.
Thanks
If in general, i am sorry i am not aware of anything.
Is there any way of knowing how much each user has contributed? (I am not interested in knowing about others ) but would be nice to know atleast for myself how much I contributed.
Thanks
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sameer2730
09-10 11:07 AM
or maybe the official webside accidently copies the India Other workers date to EB3 ;-) . In my 9th grade a real cool dude who sat next to me would say "Man lives in hope and dies in despair"
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wc_user
07-27 07:35 PM
Nobody cares about EB3. It is very apparent now. We, who filed in EB3 are on our own.
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clockwork
08-22 05:22 PM
I had a LUD on 7/28 and nothing after that... My I140 approved in Texas in April2006. I think we should get the receipt number here pretty soon...
Yeah me too. I had a LUD on 7/28 on my I-140 approval notice. I wonder, what is going on here? Thanks -
Yeah me too. I had a LUD on 7/28 on my I-140 approval notice. I wonder, what is going on here? Thanks -
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jsb
03-10 01:55 PM
what makes you think i am sitting at home waiting for the gc?
my post was in response to Sayantan's post - go back and read what he said.
With "you" I meant all those in these forums. Main point is in the second paragraph.
my post was in response to Sayantan's post - go back and read what he said.
With "you" I meant all those in these forums. Main point is in the second paragraph.
GCapplicant
07-27 10:09 PM
Where the hell all these guys when EB3 is getting 80K to 100K of total 140K visas all these years and EB2 is getting just merely 10%-15%. Nobody from EB2 didn't felt jealous like this before. It is hard to digest for them now.
Hi Dpp
kindly dont use hell ! jealous , these type of words are not required for any argument.
If you want EB2 I to get the visas and move forward...it will.
I understand u r EB2 ....EB3 I is frustrated...like how you want ur GC its the same line EB3 I is also.
The guys from EB3I have been waiting all these years.
Its the DOL's mistake for the delay of labor approvals ,hence the visa wastage.Otherwise this backlog for EB3 I woudnt have been there in the first place.
The two years standard gap would have been maintained there for EB3 I and EB2 I as usual.
When there is no movement ,this will be the reaction for the EB3 I people.
When you are eager for yr Gc ,the same rule applies for everone.
There is a big block EB3 row in between -so dont say all the visas were taken by Eb3 I only.
Did you know the visa flow earlier?
I never knew.People learn by experience.
These frustrations are not jealousy...Eb3 I is suffering and waiting for a solution.
kindly dont under estimate anyone's feelings.Every family here is undergoing pressures and agony.
I participated in the mail campaign... We are fighting for the lost justice.
Let us team as one and work best.Ever one deserves their own share.
I am not here for any argument.
Hi Dpp
kindly dont use hell ! jealous , these type of words are not required for any argument.
If you want EB2 I to get the visas and move forward...it will.
I understand u r EB2 ....EB3 I is frustrated...like how you want ur GC its the same line EB3 I is also.
The guys from EB3I have been waiting all these years.
Its the DOL's mistake for the delay of labor approvals ,hence the visa wastage.Otherwise this backlog for EB3 I woudnt have been there in the first place.
The two years standard gap would have been maintained there for EB3 I and EB2 I as usual.
When there is no movement ,this will be the reaction for the EB3 I people.
When you are eager for yr Gc ,the same rule applies for everone.
There is a big block EB3 row in between -so dont say all the visas were taken by Eb3 I only.
Did you know the visa flow earlier?
I never knew.People learn by experience.
These frustrations are not jealousy...Eb3 I is suffering and waiting for a solution.
kindly dont under estimate anyone's feelings.Every family here is undergoing pressures and agony.
I participated in the mail campaign... We are fighting for the lost justice.
Let us team as one and work best.Ever one deserves their own share.
I am not here for any argument.
gsc999
07-08 10:51 PM
Thanks to the three members for volunteering.
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